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Welkom by die Afrikaanse Wikipedia se algemene geselshoekie. Enigiemand is welkom om deel te neem aan die besprekings hier: onderteken asseblief u besprekings deur ~~~~ te tik, of die "Handtekening met datum"-ikoon (Handtekening met datum) te kies op die redigeringskieslys.

Ou besprekings word na die argief geskuif (sien die navigasiekas regs). As u 'n gesprek wil voortsit wat reeds in die argief is, word aanbeveel dat u die betrokke dele uitknip en hier plak.

Hierdie blad is vir algemene besprekings, besprekings omtrent 'n spesifieke artikel kan op daardie artikel se besprekingsblad begin word; sodoende kan dit ook deur toekomstige bydraers en redigeerders gelees word.

Vir die jongste nuus van WikimediaZA, besoek gerus ons Facebook bladsy, word lid van die Afrikaanse poslys of besoek ons Tuisblad in Afrikaans

Oesjaar en bemarking... wysig

Gemeenskap, ek het vanoggend weer op Overvaal Stereo gepraat en onder andere verwys na Gebruiker:BurgertB se voorbladartikel: Son. Môre is dit Gebruiker:Sobaka se beurt op die Waarheidradio. Die groot nuus: hou duim vas, ek praat met 'n TV-programvervaardiger.... Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 12:56, 6 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

A new feature for your wiki: Edit check wysig

Hello!

I'm sorry to use English for this message. Help met die vertaal na uw taal! Dank u.

 
Reference Edit Check at Arabic Wikipedia.

The Editing Team is building a new feature for the visual editor. It is called "Edit Check".

Edit Check is designed to encourage newcomers to add inline citations. The project has also been designed to benefit projects as a whole by increasing the likelihood that newcomers add citations before publishing new information to an article.

Could you all try the initial version of the feature and share what you think? Testing instructions are below.

Why are we building this?

At the moment, any newcomer not aware of "please cite your sources" policy can edit an article and add facts with no citations. You certainly saw this quite often! When this happens, the users who make these edits often become disappointed when they discover the changes they made were reverted. On the other hand, experienced volunteers grow frustrated by needing to continually revert low-quality edits and post messages on inexperienced volunteers' talk pages that often go unnoticed.

We are focusing our work on adding citations for now, but we can imagine many different types of prompts in the future!

Testing instructions

We offer your community the possibility to test the feature and to provide initial feedback.

Edit check is only activated if you follow the instructions written below; the feature is not yet visible for newcomers.

To try Edit Check at Afrikaans Wikipedia:

  1. Edit any article in the main namespace using the VisualEditor.
    • The feature is only available for articles.
  2. Add &ecenable=1 to the URL in your browser.
  3. Reload the page with the new URL.
  4. Create a new paragraph, that is at least 50 characters long without adding a citation
  5. Press the Publiseer...
  6. Notice the prompt that appears
  7. ✅ Test is completed.
    • Don't save your edit unless you know what you are doing!

Our questions to you:

Your feedback is very important, as it will define the next steps for this project, for all Wikipedias.

The team is curious to know:

  1. We would be very happy to offer this feature as a test on your wiki. Only newcomers would get it. What do you think?
  2. What changes do you think the team could make that would improve the feature?
    • Please note: we won't be able to apply the changes you suggest immediately. We ask your community, and others, in order to define the next development steps that fit global needs.
  3. What questions does trying this feature bring to your mind?

Please do not feel limited to the questions above, the team is interested in any and all feedback! Trizek (WMF) (kontak) 16:29, 6 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Oh, sure, come and heap more demands on our plate, Trizek! I suppose your intention is to kill smaller communities like this one dead for good? Given how incredibly unuserfriendly gizmos like "cite web" and "cite journal" are, I think we should block you from this site. Jcwf (kontak) 19:10, 6 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
@Trizek (WMF) I apologize for the rude response from @Jcwf. I will try out the feature and provide feedback if I have any.
@Jcwf How exactly is this going to kill smaller wikis? Did you even read what it was about? The intention is to prompt new users to also add references when they add content to a page. How is that a bad thing? For now this is an optional test that has no effect on anyone unless they intentionally try it out. And if it does go live, it is just a prompt to include a reference for when you add a lot of content without a reference. Again how is that a bad thing?
And finally if you do have any ACTUAL complaints about this feature, they are asking you for feedback so that they can improve it!
Please stop being rude to the WMF people who are the ones who actually build and maintain Wikipedia for us. If it wasn't for them, none of us would be here in the first place. - Rooiratel (kontak) 13:43, 7 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Have you actually ever tried to put in references using those shitty cite-templates, Rooiratel? As WMF seems to think they can force down the throats of people whose salary they are not paying? Or do you still live in the previous millennium and is "userfriendliness" an unknown concept to you? And no, I don't think you have the right to apologize in my name. You have no business doing that. And no, you have no business demanding from me that I have to try out more of their crap either, because you too do not pay my salary and I am not your cheap laborer en jy is nie baas nie. And yes, I do have the right to voice my opinion about your misbehavior. Read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and stop trying to violate my human rights.
And yes, this is the same terribly wrong idea that the WMF people have: that they are our managers, i.e. our bosses who can make us jump through whatever hoops they have come up with. That may actually work on en.wiki because there is a big slave army there. But here we are with few. And they keep heaping more nonsense -oh, sorry, "options" we lowly slaves or to call them- on us, without considering that when en.wiki had 100,000 pages its users did not have that burden on their shoulders either.
Jcwf (kontak) 17:44, 7 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Ja ek het die cite-sjablone gebruik sonder enige probleem. Niemand forseer jou om daai sjablone te gebruik nie. Die WMF mense het hulle nie eers geskep nie, dit was wikipedia gebruikers soos jy en ek.
Ek het nie namens jou om verskoning gevra nie. Ek het namens ons wiki om verskoning gevra, want ons is nie almal so onbeskof soos jy nie.
Weereens, niemand het geëis dat jy iets moet probeer nie. Dit is 'n nuwe kenmerk wat net nuwe gebruikers raak, dit sal niks met jou te doen hê nie. Hoeveel keer moet ek dit sê? Het jy probleme met leesbegrip?
Watter menseregte skend ons hier? Weereens niemand forseer jou om enigiets te doen nie.
Jy dink hulle sê vir jou wat om te doen, maar jy doen dieselfde vir julle. Betaal jy vir die bedieners wat die Wikimedia sagteware loop? Betaal jy vir die Teragrepe van netwerk verkeer wat hulle hanteer? Betaal jy vir die Teragrepe van hardeskywe wat al die inligting van Wikimedia stoor? Het jy die Wikimedia sagteware geskryf en onderhou? Jy het niks van dit gedoen nie, en hulle skuld jou niks. So as jy nie van al die goed hou wat hulle verniet aan almal verskaf nie, dan kan jy maar voetsek.
Jy is te vertraag om te verstaan dat hulle niks van jou verwag met hierdie toets nie. Jy is te onnosel om te verstaan dat hierdie toets hoegenaamd geen effek op jou sal hê nie. Jy is te dom om te besef dat die Wikimedia Foundation niks te doen het met die cite-sjablone nie. Maar jy wil julle sleg sê. Wat het jy nou eintlik bereik deur te kla oor dinge wat nie eers 'n probleem is nie? - Rooiratel (kontak) 20:09, 8 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
@Trizek (WMF) I have given it a try, and I'm quite happy with it. However there are some things I'd like to mention:
1) Many times people will do a bunch of bulk edits (adding large sections at a time, often by translating chunks of text from another wiki) and then once they are done, they will do another pass to add the references from the source wiki.
Maybe add an option in the "No" dialog to say that you are still busy with a batch of edits
Alternatively maybe have this feature (the whole thing) enabled by default, but let users disable this check for themselves. Experienced users will better know when they should/shouldn't add references, and they will be more comfortable editing their user preferences to disable this warning.
2) Sometimes users will do a large review of a page and do many spelling/formatting changes. This might set off your "50 chars with no reference" trigger, when they haven't actually added any new information.
Please think about this scenario, and how you could possibly detect it. Off the top of my head I'm not sure how I'd do it either.
3) For the "No" dialog, there are a bunch of options that a user can select, but as far as I can tell, they don't do anything.
Maybe append whichever option they select to the edit summary. Or use it to add a specific tag to the edit. The tag being something like: "no-ref because: xyz"
Thanks again for this new feature, I think it will help inspire new users to add references. Maybe it might even deter some spammers if there's extra steps to dumping a bunch of crap on a page. Rooiratel (kontak) 14:08, 7 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Thank you for the constructive feedback, @Rooiratel! You're right: we are here to collect feedback, and, beyond that, to imagine together new ways to help newcomers on wiki.
On the "no" menu, we can add there an option that would say "I'll add sources later" or something similar. Aren't you afraid that users would just forget about them? At least, the edits would be tagged and anyone could return back to the user and post them a reminder.
(As the case you mention is mostly for translators, one side note: it could be useful for your community to explore more what Section translation offers. This tool allows translations of sections of articles, that often quite well convert sources and templates.)
The "50 chars with no reference" trigger targets paragraphs only. If you abut 50+ chars to an existing sentence, or if you add two 30 chars long paragraphs, you will not get the current Edit check. 50 is a number that could be locally changed if needed (50 chars in English are definitely not the same thing as 50 chars in Chinese!).
We can imagine new Edit checks for people who work on spelling and formatting. Highlighting spelling or formatting issues could be possible, like suggesting some formatting templates. An example from another wiki: some users add bold to section titles while it is prohibited. It could be a way to introduce the existence of styling guidelines. We also look for new ideas.
After "no" is selected, the edit will be tagged as you suggest, with the reason selected by the user. You could find these edits back in Recent Changes or on your Watchlist. Look at Spesiaal:Etikette: you will find several "Edit check" tags. They are hidden at the moment (i.e. not visible in history), but we already identify when contents are added, when they are added with no citation, etc.
We already observed at smaller wikis (smaller than Afrikaans actually) that newcomers learn about citing sources when they see this Edit check for references. If you think it would be beneficial for your wiki, we can deploy it as a test. 50% of newcomers would see it, and we will measure if and how they react to the feature. This could be the start of a collaboration between Afrikaans Wikipedia and the Editing team, so that your community would be one of the pilot communities to test the new improvements and suggest changes that would fit wikis of the same size and with similar dynamics. What do you think?
Trizek (WMF) (kontak) 16:42, 7 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
> On the "no" menu, we can add there an option that would say "I'll add sources later" or something similar. Aren't you afraid that users would just forget about them? At least, the edits would be tagged and anyone could return back to the user and post them a reminder.
Yes it's not ideal, and I don't have a better solution. Just something to think about. I was unaware of the section translation tool, and will check that out. It could be very useful, thank you.
> The "50 chars with no reference" trigger targets paragraphs only. If you abut 50+ chars to an existing sentence, or if you add two 30 chars long paragraphs, you will not get the current Edit check. 50 is a number that could be locally changed if needed (50 chars in English are definitely not the same thing as 50 chars in Chinese!).
Yeah I think the overall parameters can be tweaked as time goes by to see what works best. In my opinion two (or even many more) 30 character paragraphs are the same as one 50 character paragraph, and should trigger the alert as well. But I guess one heuristic is if all the changes are very spread out, then it shouldn't trigger the alert, since that is likely a large spellcheck/format edit. But as you already mentioned, the current functionality does already do that.
> After "no" is selected, the edit will be tagged as you suggest, with the reason selected by the user.
Awesome!
> We already observed at smaller wikis (smaller than Afrikaans actually) that newcomers learn about citing sources when they see this Edit check for references. If you think it would be beneficial for your wiki, we can deploy it as a test.
That is promising that it already has a positive impact at such an early stage in testing.
I do think it would help our wiki a lot, but I cannot solely speak for my entire wiki. I suspect that if we put it to a vote there would be some pushback (to changes in general) as you have already seen. But given that we do have a problem that newcomers rarely add references, and that this test has already shown positive results, I think most people on our wiki would support the idea.
> 50% of newcomers would see it, and we will measure if and how they react to the feature.
How do you determine who a newcomer is? Does this also apply to IP-address edits?
> This could be the start of a collaboration between Afrikaans Wikipedia and the Editing team, so that your community would be one of the pilot communities to test the new improvements and suggest changes that would fit wikis of the same size and with similar dynamics. What do you think?
I am 100% supportive of this, but as I already mentioned, there are many users on this wiki that are very averse to change, so it could be challenging or unpleasant to attempt this. Let me try to convince others to try this feature, and we see how it goes from there.
Ek vra nou vir almal, maar ek ping maar solank 'n paar mense om die gesprek te begin: @Oesjaar, @Sobaka @BurgertB @Jcwf
Kan ons asseblief hierdie nuwe funksie op ons wiki toets? Dit sal net nuwe gebruikers affekteer, en al wat dit doen is om hulle te herinner om verwysings by te voeg as hulle 'n groot paragraaf skryf sonder enige bronne. Daar is reeds positiewe veranderings op ander wikis wat dit probeer het. - Rooiratel (kontak) 17:07, 7 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
On the configuration, you can already have a look at Spesiaal:EditGrowthConfig. It is a prototype page of what local community configuration will look like. The number fo characters the tool would detect would be set there, and editable by any admin at your wiki.
It is also the place where the number of edits would be set to decides who see Edit check. At the moment, users with less than 500 edits see the check, which is more or less the limit defined for newcomers (this limit is used in Recent changes, for instance). IPs won't get it for now.
What we offer here is not a change (like in "it is there and won't move") but a test (we work together on making it better, and we can stop the test if your community decides to).
Let me know if you have any other questions. Beyond this, I can help you with solutions we have to help newcomers making their first edits. :) Trizek (WMF) (kontak) 17:56, 7 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
As ons nie probeer nie, sal ons nooit weet nie. Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 17:33, 7 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
This feature will be available starting Monday. If you have any questions, please contact me! :) Trizek (WMF) (kontak) 09:08, 16 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Thanks @Trizek (WMF). - Rooiratel (kontak) 09:33, 16 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
@Trizek (WMF): One of the problem that I have found when editing the Afrikaans Wikipedia is that the citation template is not always the same as the the equivalnet template that is used elsewhere - often it appears to be an older version. If I am copying a citation from say the English Wikipedia, I cannot garauntee that the template will be the same. I appreciate that this puts considerable pressure on the Admins of the smaller Wikipedias, but is there a means whereby templates between Wikipedias could be better synchorinised? I appreciate of course that I cannot just cut and paste a citation, but that a bit of transdlation is usually neccessary - for example, I might be to add "|language = Engels" to the citation and change the date from "4 March 2024" to "4 Maart 2024" etc. Martinvl (kontak) 14:09, 4 Maart 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
@Martinvl, do you have a few diffs available, so that I can check on the case?
If you copy a full template from one wiki to the other, these templates aren't always compatible, indeed. There is a project to create Global templates, but it is not getting enough attention. Meanwhile, some wikis have a bot to convert the different parameters of a pasted template to the matching one.
A possible solution would be to defined which templates should be used by the visual editor. We can define one for books, articles, websites...
Thanks, Trizek (WMF) (kontak) 17:28, 4 Maart 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Onbekende vrug wysig

Goeie dag

Ek het tans 'n vrug wat niemand my kan sê watse vrug dit is nie.

Waar kan ek navraag doen en foto's stuur vir moontlike identifisering van die besonderse vrug.

Alta

164.151.138.226 11:31, 7 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Hallo anon. Die beste plek om 'n plant of dier te identifiseer is op https://www.inaturalist.org/. Skep 'n nuwe "Observation" en voeg foto's by. Dit maak dinge nog makliker as jy die GPS koördinate gee waar jy die vrug gevind het. Die mense daar sal jou kan help met die identifikasie. - Rooiratel (kontak) 13:46, 7 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Besoekstatistieke van die Son-artikel wysig

Gemeenskap, soos julle reeds weet het Overvaal Stereo laas Dinsdag, 6 Februarie met my 'n onderhoud gevoer. Ek het spesifiek moeite gedoen om na Gebruiker:BurgertB se voorbladartikel oor die Son te verwys. Kyk na die besoekstatistieke: Besoeke Interessant! Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 06:56, 12 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Announcing the results of the UCoC Coordinating Committee Charter ratification vote wysig

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Dear all,

Thank you everyone for following the progress of the Universal Code of Conduct. I am writing to you today to announce the outcome of the ratification vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter. 1746 contributors voted in this ratification vote with 1249 voters supporting the Charter and 420 voters not. The ratification vote process allowed for voters to provide comments about the Charter.

A report of voting statistics and a summary of voter comments will be published on Meta-wiki in the coming weeks.

Please look forward to hearing about the next steps soon.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 18:23, 12 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Geostasionêre wentelbaan wysig

Hierdie artikel is nou feitlik klaar, hoe kry ek die twee foto's heelbo regs ewe groot? Wat sal Low Earth orbit in Afrikaans wees? Wat is die korrekte vertaling vir real time? Enige hulp is welkom! Hierdie artikel was 'n uitdaging! Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 20:40, 12 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

  Foto's gefieks ~ Burgert (kontak) 19:40, 13 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Waardeer Burgert! Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 19:53, 13 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Koffiedrinksessie wysig

 
Sobaka, Woordgenoot en Oesjaar by Karoo, 17 Februarie 2024.

Gemeenskap, die sessie sal plaasvind nou Sat, 17 Feb. by die Karoo Cafe vanaf 10:00-12:00. Sien julle daar! Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 15:40, 13 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Die een op Lynnwood Rd in Pretoria? Ek sal probeer, maar dink nie ek sal dit kan maak nie. Geniet dit julle. - Rooiratel (kontak) 09:33, 16 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Ja! Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 11:33, 16 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Jammer ek het die boodskap gemis, sou graag julle wou ontmoet, tot volgende keer,groete Odriskelmac11 (kontak) 17:27, 18 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Daai ontkiemingskompetisie... wysig

Hoe gaan ons die prysgeld verdeel? Net 3 plekke of 4 plekke? Daar is R10,000.00 se bewyse. Ek luister... Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 15:42, 13 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Hallo, ek voel dit moet so verdeel word: R5000 vir die wenner, R3000 vir tweede plek en R2000 vir derde plek. Dis net my opinie. Laat dit goed gaan, Lefcentreright (kontak) 07:30, 14 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Gee dit als vir die wenner Dumbassman (kontak) 16:39, 15 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Die uwe, Aliwal2012, was in die vierde plek, maar baie ver agtertoe. Ek berus my daarby as slegs 1ste, 2de en 3de plek pryse kry! Vriende, baie dankie vir julle insette, --  Aliwal2012 15:36, 18 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Teen hierdie spoed gaan ek tienteen al my graad hê en oorsee werk voordat ek my prysgeld ontvang. Ek twyfel of daar Takealot in Nieu-Seeland is...Lefcentreright (kontak) 23:44, 3 Maart 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Ek vind dit ironies dat hierdie besluite goedgekeur word deur die komitee waarop jy sit en dan maak jy hier opmerkings. Die finansiële komitee het dit laas Donderdag goedgekeur en nou moet sekretaresse die aankope doen. Ek is nie die komitee nie, ongelukkig slegs een lid van sewe en die meerderheidsbesluit tel. Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 07:12, 4 Maart 2024
Jy meen dit sou help as hierdie besluite vooraf geneem was? Is tog nie die eerste keer nie? Dumbassman (kontak) 14:27, 4 Maart 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Nog van prof. Van Wyk se foto's... wysig

Gemeenskap, geniet dit saam met my! Cephalophyllum pillansii Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 18:33, 19 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Indringerplante en -diere wysig

Is die haat teen hierdie spesies eintlik wetenskaplik geregverdig?

En: moet wikipedia nie 'n bietjie neutraler wees op hierdie punt nie?

Jcwf (kontak) 08:48, 21 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Ja dit is wetenskaplik geregverdig. Sien byvoorbeeld die tweede verwysings op en:Invasive species https://doi.org/10.1146%2Fannurev-ecolsys-102209-144650.
Dit hang ook af aan die spesifieke spesie. Byvoorbeeld, "blackjacks" (genus Bidens) doen nie ekologies skade nie, maar is meer kompetisie vir die inheemse plante, en maak die lewe moeiliker vir hulle. Maar ander spesies, soos byvoorbeeld die pompombossie (Campuloclinium macrocephalum) "veroorsaak ernstige agteruitgang van die veld, verlaag die biodiversiteit en verminder die weidingskapasiteit deurdat dit onsmaaklik is vir groot herbivore" https://invasives.org.za/fact-sheet/pom-pom-weed/
Vir meer inligting lees en:Invasive_species#Adverse_effects. Die waterkrisis in Kaapstad kon moontlik vermy gewees het as die indringerplante verwyder was. Rooiratel (kontak) 09:17, 21 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
O, dat sommige indingers skadelik kan wees, is duidelik, Rooiratel. Maar die gedagte dat alle indringers skadelik is – bloot omdat hulle indringers is – is 'n dogma wat met feite ontkrag kan word. En dogma behoort in 'n kerk, nie in die wetenskap of in 'n neutrale ensiklopedie nie. Jcwf (kontak) 23:29, 21 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Ja, dit kan moontlik wees dat sommige indringers nie skadelik is nie.
> is 'n dogma wat met feite ontkrag kan word
Deel asseblief die feite, en hulle bronne. Ons kan dit op ons bladsy byvoeg. - Rooiratel (kontak) 09:47, 23 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Coritiba Foot Ball Club wysig

Gemeenskap, is die naam aanvaarbaar so? Coritiba-sokkerklub? Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 19:19, 21 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Dankie Burgert! Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 06:52, 22 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Arsenal F.C. wysig

Die gebruiker 37.212.13.164 het die kleure van die Arsenal sokkerklub se uniform verander en die resultaat het verskil van wat op die Engelse en Duitse wiki's is, toe rol ek dit terug, MAAR toe was die kleure nog meer verkeerd. Ek aanvaar nou 37.212.13.164 se verandering was in goeder trou en het dit weer herstel, maar iemand wat weet (@BurgertB of @SpesBona?) moet dalk die kleure nagaan. Thermofan (kontak) 20:00, 21 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

@Thermofan: ek weet nie eers hoe deesdae die kleure van die Duitse klubs in die Fußballbundesliga lyk nie. :D Ek doen eintlik internasionale krieket, rugby en sokker. :) Groete. --   SpesBona 22:00, 21 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Ek het dit gaan regmaak op Arsenal F.C., maar al die ander sokkerklubs wys nou verkeerd, want die sjabloon is verander. Iemand moet óf die sjabloon gaan terugrol óf al die ander sokkerklubs se derde kleure gaan verander. is dit die moeite werd? ~ Burgert (kontak) 08:23, 22 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Ek het die sjabloon teruggerol sodat ons net twee kleure wys. Daar is te veel sokkerklubs. ~ Burgert (kontak) 08:28, 22 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
@BurgertB, Sou dit nie beter wees om die kleure eenvoudig met 'n foto voor te stel nie, eerder as 'n sjabloon? 'n Toevallige kyk op die selfoontoepassing het die kleure verkeerd gewys in Af. en Eng.Wiki, anders as op die rekenaar. Nee, ek dink nie dit is die moeite werd om baie tyd aan sjablone vir sokkerklub kleure te spandeer nie.
Dankie die hulp. Thermofan (kontak) 06:25, 23 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Gebruiker:Stevygidog wysig

Gemeenskap, neem asb kennis dat bogenoemde deel van 'n Cross Wikispam span was. Ek het al sy gemors verwyder. Ek wens ek kon my hier ordentlik uitdruk... Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 10:04, 22 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Blykbaar skep hy nou soortgelyke artikels anoniem, byvoorbeeld Dobbel in Suid-Afrika. Groete. --   SpesBona 22:10, 22 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Gebruiker:Sthubertliege wysig

Gemeenskap, ek het bogenoemde se veranderinge na die Voorsitter van die Belgiese Wikipedia verwys. Hy het bevestig dat dit Bona Fide veranderinge is. Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 05:59, 23 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Is daar 'n Belgiese Wikipedia? Ek was nie bewus dat België hulle eie taal het nie. Kan jy asb. vir my meer inligting oor hulle stuur? Ek kan niks daaroor vind nie. - Rooiratel (kontak) 09:45, 23 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Hulle praat Vlaams en Frans in België. België en Nederland het hulle eie chapters maar werk baie nou saam. Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 10:49, 23 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Lol, nou verstaan ek. Dit is die "chapter" en nie die wikipedia nie. Dankie. - Rooiratel (kontak) 10:55, 23 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
@Oesjaar: Bona Fide (goedertrou), wat beteken dit? Dat hy/sy heeldag daarmee mag voortgaan? Vandag een vlag insit, môre dit met 'n ander vervang en oormôre alles terugverander, voordat dit weer van vooraf begin? Ek beskou dié veranderinge as onnodig. Groete. --   SpesBona 21:55, 23 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
@SpesBona:, ek was aanvanklik nie seker oor Gebruiker:Sthubertliege se veranderinge maar na my e-pos na die Belgiese Wikipedia het ek beter gevoel. Jy is baie nader aan die mense daar en behoort baie beter te weet as ons hier aan die suidpunt van Afrika. Indien jy nie saamstem nie; hier is Geert Van Pamel <geert@wikimedia.be> se kontak details. Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 13:21, 24 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
@Oesjaar: Dalk ná die volgende rondte, as hy/sy homself weer terugrol. Kom ons kyk! Groete. --   SpesBona 22:25, 24 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Daar was hy weer! @Sthubertliege: Please explain your edits! Groete. --   SpesBona 22:00, 25 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Op die Franse wiki doen hy dieselfde en antwoord ook nie op vrae en opmerkings nie. sien. Ek dink hy moet geblokkeer word. Jcwf (kontak) 02:34, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
@Jcwf en Oesjaar:  Uitgevoer. Groete. --   SpesBona 22:15, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Vielen dank! Grusse! Oesjaar (kontak) 06:32, 27 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Inset oor die Afrikaanse Wikipedia wysig

Luister na die inset op Jacaranda FM vandag. https://www.jacarandafm.com/podcasts/afternoon-drive/ Sobaka (kontak) 15:45, 23 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Opmerking: Soos hulle in Ingils sê :Life is great!" Ek sit en braai lamtjoppies op 'n bosveldvuur, my kleinkinders swem in die splashpool wat ek al- Krismis gekoop het, en my pensioen is so skaars soos 'n dubbel-bloumaan (was al 2x Pta Hooggeregshof toe daarvoor). Viva Suid-Afrika, ek hoop ek steek lepel in die dak voor die EFF aan bewind kom. Baie groete vrinne en vindinne!
  Aliwal2012 15:17, 24 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Deon Steyn, direkteur van Afrikaanse Wikimedia. Van wanneer af? Daar is nie 'n Afrikaanse Wikimedia nie. Maleis is drie keer groter as Afrikaanse Wiki en meestal gedoen deur 'n robot. Maar nou ja, all publicity is mos good publicity... Dumbassman (kontak) 07:24, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
My woorde was: Direkteur - Afrikaans op die WikimediaZA Stigting... Wat hulle dan doen het ek geen beheer oor nie. Hoekom die venynigheid? Oesjaar (kontak) 07:29, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Gee wanpersepsie dat ons 'n Chapter of User group is wanneer jy al probeer het maar dit nog nooit reggekry het nie. En "paid-editing" bestaan. Dumbassman (kontak) 07:32, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Kom ons maak dit maklik, gaan soen jy die skape daar op die plaas en los die VRYWILLIGERS hier wat baie, baie moeite doen vir die Afrikaanse Wikipedia. Ek kan nie omgee wat in die res van die Wêreld gebeur nie. Jy is welkom om die Code-of-Conduct te gebruik en 'n klagte teen my in te dien. Oesjaar (kontak) 07:38, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Jou houding en persoonlike aanmerkings het al meer mense van ons Wiki af weggejaag as wat jy ooit wysigings sal maak. Maar jy worry mos nie Dumbassman (kontak) 07:39, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Dien dan die klagte in... Oesjaar (kontak) 07:41, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Ek gaan nie, maar vra asb dat iemand anders doen. Ek het al gehoor Oesjaar is een klagte vanaf blokkeer word Dumbassman (kontak) 07:43, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Dan is dit nou maar so... Oesjaar (kontak) 07:52, 26 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Kraankuil wysig

Gemeenskap, kan iemand wat inligting oor die plek het dit skep? Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 07:06, 28 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

@Oesjaar: die plekkie was nie opgeneem of gelys tydens S.A. se sensus 2011 nie. Probeer search Kraankuil Dus is dit baie moeilik om selfs 'n saadjie te skep---geen inligting volgens my nie, jammer!   Aliwal2012 08:05, 28 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Dit lyk vir my dit is kleiner as klein! Op Google Maps wys dit 'n treinspoor en toetsstasie. Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 08:14, 28 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Ek het 'n bladsy geskep oor die treinstasie. Alles wat ek kon vind verwys na 'n treinstasie. Daar is hierdie bron : https://www.roadonmap.com/za/where-is/Kraankuil-Hopetown,northern_cape wat sê dat dit 'n voorstad van Hopetown is, maar as ek op die kaart kyk is dit 'n entjie na die suide van Hopetown, en is in die presiese ligging van die treinstasie. Lyk nie vir my soos 'n voorstad nie. - Rooiratel (kontak) 08:18, 28 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]
Dankie Gebruiker:Rooiratel. Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 08:29, 28 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Erkenning deur prof. Wannie Carstens wysig

Gemeenskap, sien prof. Carstens se verwysing na die Afrikaanse Wikipedia. https://www.litnet.co.za/afrikaans-in-namibie-afrikaans-in-suid-afrika/ Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 05:55, 29 Februarie 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Besoekstatistiek wysig

Gemeenskap, hier is die nuutste besoekerstatistiek: Maandelikse besoeke Meer as 'n miljoen besoeke vir Februarie is nie te versmaai nie! Dit is net oor die 34 000 besoeke elke dag. Groete! Oesjaar (kontak) 05:27, 1 Maart 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

As julle wil, help asseblief met die vertaling van wikistats in Afrikaans. Ons kort ook proeflesing van die vertalings wat reeds gemaak is. Ek sien wikistats het bv. 'n Viëtnamese vertaling. Viëtnamees staan op die oomblik op 76% vertaald, en 85% geproeflees. Afrikaans is nou by 77% vertaald, en 0% geproeflees. Ek dink as ons die proefleespersentasie bo 50% of 75% kan kry, sal 'n Afrikaanse weergawe van wikistats mag verskyn. Ek kan dit nie alleen doen nie, 'n proeflesing tel nie as jy ook die oorspronklike vertaling gedoen het nie. - Rooiratel (kontak) 09:23, 1 Maart 2024 (UTC)Beantwoord[antwoord]

Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2024: We are back! wysig

 

Help met die vertaal na uw taal

Hello, dear Wikipedians!

Wikimedia Ukraine, in cooperation with the MFA of Ukraine and Ukrainian Institute, has launched the forth edition of writing challenge "Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month", which lasts from 1st until 31st March 2024. The campaign is dedicated to famous Ukrainian artists of cinema, music, literature, architecture, design and cultural phenomena of Ukraine that are now part of world heritage. We accept contribution in every language! The most active contesters will receive prizes.

We invite you to take part and help us improve the coverage of Ukrainian culture on Wikipedia in your language! Also, we plan to set up a banner to notify users of the possibility to participate in such a challenge! ValentynNefedov (WMUA) (talk)